Anchor Windlass with 2 Anchors IP29

Most IPs have two anchors up front. When an electric windlas is installed and the rode from the main anchor is on the windlass with the rode dropping inside the windlass to the anchor locker, how is a second anchor retrieved with that same windlass?

What is the best electric windlass for a boat the size of the IP29? Any good/bad experiences?

Bob:
I would simply drop the chain off the primary windlass, freeing it up to pull in the secondary anchor. This is easier on a horizontal windlass as the chain can easily be lifted off.

The windlass I would look at are made by IMTRA.com. You can buy these from defender, but this is the company:
www.imtra.com/product/anchoring_systems/...electric_winches.htm

For an IP29, I would look at the CAYMAN of TIGRES.

I replaced our SL 1000 with a Tigres and love it, it is a fantastic machine!
Hayden

Haden,

Nice windlass but expensive! I was looking for something in a vertical windlass along the lines of my current manual lewmar (which doesn't drop the chain/rode blind into the anchor locker) hoping I could lift off the primary rode and drop on the secondary. Much cheaper , too, and priced appropriately for an IP29. I'd never recover the $3-4K for an Imtra .

Now, if I had the IP35.......

Then look at a DORADO by Lofrons for about $1,400. Either way, I would never go back to a vertical windlass after using one for 6 years and now using a horizontal for 4 years. Horizontal is the best way to go for me.
Did you look at windlasses at Defender?
www.defender.com/category.jsp?path=-1|10391|29596&id=321924
Hayden

hayden wrote: Bob:
I would simply drop the chain off the primary windlass, freeing it up to pull in the secondary anchor. This is easier on a horizontal windlass as the chain can easily be lifted off.
Hayden

Hayden, we're in the process of ordering a new windlass (Lighthouse 1501) and have been going through the various gypsy/rope drum options. One of the concerns I have is with respect to managing a second anchor. We'd like to save the cost of a second gyspy but not if it compromises usability. Like you, we're planning to go with an oversized Rocna as our primary. For this reason, I believe it will be very rare to need the secondary so am hesitant to spend the $$ on a second gypsy fpr the port side. I'm curious though, for a horizontal windlass, similar configuration to your Tigres, how well are you able to use the starboard side gypsy for the port anchor when needed?

Our goal is to carry as much chain on the primary as possible (likely 250' of 3/8" chain) for the primary. Which due to space/weight would likely mean the secondary would be primarily rope rode with 50-75' of chain. I just want to be sure this single gypsy is feasible in this scenario. Of course the gyspy and rope drum can always be field swapped (port for starboard) of you needed to use the secondary for an extended period of time but this is not something one would want to do regularly and having the secondary ready to go, just in case is also important.

Thanks,
Erin

Erin:

This is because our secondary anchor is all rode and with the Lofrans Tigress we can just use the rope drum. That is why we drop off the chain, or we can loosen the brake and freewheel the gypsy.

Again, we had the Lighthouse 1501 windless paid for an waited months to receive. They only make a few at a time, small shop. When it was not even started yet and I needed it I called them and canceled the order and bought the Tigress. The money saved paid for the 10 foot AB new dinghy. Why do you think you need the Lighthouse 1501 over the well proven Tigress? Just wondering.

Installation of the lighthouse requires you being under the deck and bolting their massive motor up to the underside of the unit. Yes, it is a work of art, but at the cost, it should be gold plated. The tigress will pull your boat right up to the anchor and it never strains. It is a piece of cake to install, 4 dolts. It is even easier to service. Pull the motor, change the oil, install new brushes. To me, it is great.

Hayden